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Welcome to the Local Logic podcast
Listen to host Bronwyn Williams, futurist and trend analyst, as she explores the business challenges faced by tech leaders in Local Logic - where South African tech leaders get the insights that matter.
Local Logic cuts through the noise with episodes featuring Dr Bongani Andy Mabaso, Group Chief Technology Officer at Altron and AI visionary, industry pioneers, emerging tech deep-dives, and actionable strategies you can implement today.
New episode drops every week!
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Episode 1
Future proofing your institution: AI driven innovation
Marketing strategist and former Nedbank Head of Digital Marketing Musa Kalenga joins Dr Mabaso to explore how financial services leaders can turn AI into a competitive advantage. This episode dives into innovation laboratories, emerging tech strategies, and creating new revenue streams while maintaining security and control in highly regulated environments.
Episode 2
Breaking down the data silos
Data without outcomes is worthless. TransUnion CEO Lee Naik and Altron CTO Dr Bongani Andy Mabaso reveal the framework that turns raw data into 100X value for FSI organisations. Discover why you can't do everything alone, how to co-create with customers, and Andy's simple test: does it make your beer taste better?
Episode 3
Leading through technology change
Why do transformations fail? You're automating the wrong things. Sharon Pearce (Chief Solutionist, Fresh Vision Consulting) and Altron CTO Dr Bongani Andy Mabaso reveal why FSI leaders must redesign work around outcomes, not processes. Discover "regretty spaghetti" - wasteful tech investments automating bad processes - and why job descriptions create learned helplessness. Learn how to design organisations that make people embrace change instead of fearing it.
Episode 4
From AI hype to ROI
Why do 80% of enterprise AI deployments fail? Rich Mulholland (Too Many Robots) and Dr. Bongani Andy Mabaso reveal the fatal mistake: chasing big transformational projects before mastering tactical wins. Learn why AI isn't a strategy, how to assess your organization's readiness, and why the percentage of employees using AI matters more than your one big project. Real case studies from South African banks generating hundreds of millions in value, plus the cultural shift that makes or breaks AI adoption.
Episode 5
The data sovereignty paradox
"Data residency laws are utterly absurd," says Steven Sidley - then explains why businesses can't ignore them anyway. He and Andy Mabaso map out the real trade-offs South African businesses face with AI and cloud: speed vs. control, global scale vs. local sovereignty, innovation vs. regulation. No perfect answers, just better questions
Episode 6 - COMING SOON
Part 1: The human side of AI adoption - When machines have all the answers
Research shows only 5% of people truly co-create with AI—the rest just outsource their thinking. Dr. Vivienne Ming and Andy Mabaso reveal why companies using true co-creation win product awards and drive revenue while outsourcing produces forgettable marketing slop. Plus: the neuroscience behind cognitive decline, why machines handle certainty while humans must own uncertainty.
Bronwyn Williams
Futurist, Economist and Business Trends Analyst
Bronwyn Williams
Futurist, Economist and Business Trends Analyst
Futurist and economist Bronwyn Williams is a polymath who challenges assumptions about the present and future. With over a decade in strategic management and trend research, she specializes in fintech trends, alternative economic models, and sustainable futures design for global public and private sector clients.
Dr. Bongani Andy Mabaso
Altron Group Chief Technology Officer
Dr. Bongani Andy Mabaso
Altron Group Chief Technology Officer
Dr. Bongani Andy Mabaso leads Altron's Group-wide technology function, focusing on AI, data analytics, and platform ecosystem expansion. A qualified engineer with a PhD from the University of Pretoria, Andy previously served as CEO of the State Information Technology Agency and CIO at Standard Bank, bringing over a decade of experience from roles spanning software design to executive research management.
Sharon Pearce
Chief Solutionist - FreshVision Consulting
Sharon Pearce
Chief Solutionist - FreshVision Consulting
Sharon Pearce is a business transformation specialist with 28 years of experience helping global companies future-proof and transform across oil and gas, retail, financial services, Big Pharma, and marketing sectors. She holds an MBA from the Gordon Institute of Business Science and is a member of the Future Talent Council, focusing on transforming the future of work.
Musa Kalenga
Visionary Technologist, Marketer and Entrepreneur
Musa Kalenga
Visionary Technologist, Marketer and Entrepreneur
Musa is an author, marketer, brand communication specialist, writer and entrepreneur. He is a lauded speaker, author of Ladders and Trampolines and a strategist who was recognised as one of the Top 200 young South Africans by the Mail & Guardian in 2012. He is the former Head of Digital Marketing for Nedbank and former Client Partner for Facebook Africa.
Dr. Vivienne Ming
Visionary Neuroscientist, AI innovator, and Champion of Human Potential
Dr Vivienne Ming
Visionary Neuroscientist, AI innovator, and Champion of Human Potential
Dr. Vivienne Ming is a renowned theoretical neuroscientist, entrepreneur, and thought leader dedicated to unlocking human potential through science and technology. As an expert in machine learning and cognitive neuroscience, she tackles global challenges ranging from education reform to mental health, always prioritizing the intersection of ethics and innovation.
Lee Naik
CEO: TransUnion Africa
Lee Naik
CEO: TransUnion Africa
As the CEO of TransUnion Africa, Lee Naik leads a diverse and dynamic team of information and digital experts who deliver innovative solutions to the African market. With over 20 years of experience in digital transformation, Lee is recognized as one of the continent's leading authorities on how technology can be used to solve problems that matter. He is also a LinkedIn Top Voice in Technology and a sought-after keynote speaker on topics such as leadership, innovation, and the future of work.
Rich Mulholland
Entrepreneur, author and keynote speaker
Rich Mulholland
Entrepreneur, author and keynote speaker
Unlike many speakers, Rich hits audiences with fresh, actionable insights straight from the trenches of his company. His obsession? To arm leaders across various industries such as banking, real estate, social networking, consulting, sports, and beyond, with the relentless drive to stay fiercely relevant.
Steven Sidley
Professor of Practice at the Johannesburg Business School
Steven Sidley
Professor of Practice at the Johannesburg Business School
Steven Sidley is Professor of Practice at Johannesburg Business School and Head of the Blockchain and Cryptoverse Research Group at the University of Johannesburg. An award-winning author of six books including "Beyond Bitcoin," he's co-founded several tech companies, served as Group CTO at Anglo American and Altron, and currently partners at Bridge Capital while leading cutting-edge blockchain research.